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Taoist Dragon
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Posted - 2012.12.05 21:13:00 -
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TBH the button change has changed absolutly nothing in how I decide to warp into a plex or not.
I always assuem that whoever is in the plex is at there optimal range for tackle/dps/ewar/whatever. That is the advantage they get by being there first and me warping in second is my choice weather to engage or not.
If you are not willing to engage then bugger off and go running missions or some crap like that!
As for tactics.....the change to the button changes nothing! if i'm in a kitey setup I need range asap and as I have already assumed they'll be at their optimal then I plan accordingly to try and minimise the chance of being caught by a brawler (not going into how I do this - figure it out!) or try to catch a kitey if i'm in a brawler setup.
It does give the brawlers a bit more time to setup on the warping if they are actively defending it. But then again any half witted player will watch dscan and move as soon as wt's show up. I have never not been able to set myself up in a AB'ing brawler before.
Seriously all this changes is the ease of catching a plexer who is only half paying attention to dscan......get over it and stop overthinking the issue.
Edit: The only real change in the plex's is the silly speed of the npc's now......
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Taoist Dragon
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Posted - 2012.12.05 21:27:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:Taoist Dragon wrote:
If you are not willing to engage then bugger off and go running missions or some crap like that!
if you say something like that you clearly didn't understand what the OP wanted to say. We are here to pvp. Its still a difference between running into a camp every time you enter a plex or not.
I undersatnd what he is saying.....basically it is folly to enter an occupied plex! Re-read my post I always assume a camp in an occupied plex....it changes nothing.
Guess what?
What a load of crap!
I suppose I should stop flying rifters now or run away from the rebalanced cruisers in my frigs.....yeah right like that is going to happen!
Seriously people need to stop bitching and whining so much a go out and fight......all the 'perfect world' scenarios that are argued about here on the forums are generally a load of tosh and very rarely happen.
Here's a novel Idea.....go out anf find out about if first rather than complaining about it..........then........figure out a counter to it and BBQ them all over the place.
The history of EVE is one of new tactics -> counter tactics -> new counter tactics.......
This is nothing different.
Adapt or die!
If it actually panned out in game like most of the posts in the forum would have you believe then eve would die a very quick death.
I always assume worst case scenarios when i go into a fight but I always bet on chance and stupidity of my opponent. Some times that pays off and I get a kill that I 'shouldn't' be able to or I have a tough fight and barely scrape through or I get owned because I have the wrong ship/fit/tactics and the other pilot is competant.....
That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
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Taoist Dragon
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Posted - 2012.12.05 22:57:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:it has nothing to do with tactics or counter tactics. What happened that something was changed what was perfectly working. Its now more boring as it was in past. You enter the plex and you know exactly what will happen. Jumping through a gate is more exciting as entering a plex since you are at least at a random point in 15k range around that gate when you decloak.
whats wrong with approaching each other in a fight?
If you both want a fight thats fine.....and it won't change with the new plex mechanics. it is the same as it has been since eve went live in that respect.
only difference now is that if someone is not paying attention while plex'ing then he is more likely to get caught.....tbh i think this may still be a legacy of the gunless farmer alt season after inferno was released. In reality I don't see it changing the actual plex fights that i have had much at all.
That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
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Taoist Dragon
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Posted - 2012.12.06 02:05:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:Taoist Dragon wrote:
only difference now is that if someone is not paying attention while plex'ing then he is more likely to get caught.....tbh i think this may still be a legacy of the gunless farmer alt season after inferno was released. In reality I don't see it changing the actual plex fights that i have had much at all.
just read my comment a few pages before. Thats exactly what i said. The change would have been an excellent quick-fix a few weeks after inferno shipped but serves now 0 purpose since the problem does not exist anymore.
Fair enough that it may fix a problem that no longer exists. I just don't see it being an issue or change how I get fights in or around plex's tbh.
The only change it may affect is a slightly more brawling focussed wz until people realise that is doesn't change the way in which actual fights occur.
That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
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Taoist Dragon
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Posted - 2012.12.06 02:38:00 -
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2manno Asp wrote:well, i haven't lost as the guy starting in a plex yet.
they jump in, and oddly, they're always right where i want them.
So what has changed from before then?
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Balance is everything.
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Taoist Dragon
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Posted - 2012.12.09 11:41:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Veshta Yoshida wrote:Brawlers win 99.99% of the time against LR hulls if they get to dictate range, with me so far?
Kiters win 99.99% of the time against Brawlers if they get to dictate range, with me so far?
^^ This.
And the kiter has ways to deal with brawlers on the warp in......The only time a brawler catches me on the warp in when I'm in a kiter is either net lag at the time of landing (in Australia the net is crap!!!) or more likely I misskey and don't get moving in time. Normally I get range pretty easily in a kiter...
So seems to me a good balance now something that brawlers certainly didn't have in the old plex's.
That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
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